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Topic Title: Quilting on Horizon 7700
Topic Summary: Bobbin thread coming to top at pivot point
Created On: 06/02/2012 05:27 PM
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 06/02/2012 05:27 PM
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quiltmom1

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I am trying to do some straight-line quilting. When I pivot, the bobbin thread comes to the top and I don't get a nice, crisp corner in my stitching. I have replaced the needle, cleaned the bobbin case and added a drop of oil, and adjusted the tension. Any suggestions?

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 06/02/2012 09:36 PM
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CherylAnn

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Do you have the needle down when you pivot? I'm assuming that you do. There is a special bobbin case that has blue paint, that has the right tension for quilting - try that if you haven't done that already. It may help.

Cheryl

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HMC12000, Horizon 7700QCP, 4120 QDC, Jem Platinum 760, CoverPro 1000, HuskyLock 936, Xpression Felting Machine, DigitizerMBX v.4.0
 06/03/2012 09:08 AM
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MOM

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Cheryl:

Have you ever done bobbin work?

MOM
 06/03/2012 07:18 PM
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CherylAnn

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MOM,

I only did bobbin work in a class situation. I think you would want to have a separate bobbin case as those threads can be really thick and you want the stuff to look nice, something I never achieved. You might need to change the tension so that the threads fit through. What I found difficult was that the good side was on the bottom so you couldn't see it until you were finished. Couching can get a similar effect, I think.

Cheryl

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HMC12000, Horizon 7700QCP, 4120 QDC, Jem Platinum 760, CoverPro 1000, HuskyLock 936, Xpression Felting Machine, DigitizerMBX v.4.0
 06/03/2012 07:54 PM
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devilcat

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I did some bobbin work, just to experiment, on my 10001. It was beautiful but I could see how it could be a bit of a pain. As the bobbin thread is thicker than usual, it involves frequent filling of the bobbin.

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 06/04/2012 08:20 AM
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MOM

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I thought we could use the blue dot bobbin case on our machine and just wind the thread really slow and not a full bobbin. Isn't the blue dot bobbin case a looser tension?

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 06/05/2012 01:28 AM
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CherylAnn

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Yes, the blue dot bobbin is a lower tension, but I'd still get a second where you can play with the tension knowing that you might mess things up later because of that. Or you could keep note of where your tension is and just move it back. I was alway afraid that the thicker thread would spring the space where the thread comes through. I could be a bit paranoid and it may be no concern.

Cheryl

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 06/05/2012 06:44 PM
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digimad

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Cheyl and mom, I've done masses of bobbin work designs using from buttonhole twist to heavy wool yarns, but not on a Janome I hasten to add. with heavy nubbly wool I missed out the bobbin case tension spring entirely, used a flat ball winder and simply ran the thread directly up from the flat ball of wool on the floor, under the needle plate and up through the needle plate hole then started stitching, My MC 10k doesn't have a small gap below the front of the needle plate to allow me to do that any more. which is a real shame, you could get some really good effects. I should also say my machine I used was mechanical and would have been 48 this year had I not run her into the ground 8 years ago doing free motion embroidery. I couldn't drop the feed dogs, bought a spare bobbin case but never used it, in fact it got lost in one of my 28 moves. Had to use pattern cams, still have most of them in their original unused state. Twin needle work was a doddle, you used 2 needles, not a single shank with a bridge.I did masses of corded pin tucks with the cords feeding from below, something I was able to do on my Brother SuperAce11 but not on my MC 10k. I have to use a cording foot and the pintucks dont stand out as well.
Since my faithful old tank died I've not done a lot of free motion work, sensors and free motion special stitches dont gel well.

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Edited: 06/05/2012 at 06:46 PM by digimad
 06/11/2012 09:33 AM
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seleyrn

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I have had that problem as well on straight line quilting, I don't get a nice right angle on the turns. But it doesn't happen every time. I may have to try the blue dot case. I was considering that for free m otion shortly after purchasing my machine, but working with the dealer we determined it was my choice of thread. Never thought about the straight line quilting having problems.....I do have a lot of problems getting nice stitches. Either the top is too loose or the bottom is loopy or something. I just keep changing threads and needles until it gives me a good stitch. It's a fussy little devil...
 07/07/2012 04:38 PM
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EmWag09

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I purchased a special bobbin case from my dealer when I bought my 7700. I did not use my machine for free motion quilting until about 4 months later. When I was unpackaging the special blue dot bobbin case, I noticed on the back of the wrapper, a warning: Not for use in automatic thread cutter models. Is there a special case for the 7700 that I should have gotten? I am afraid to disregard the warning and plunge ahead. Can these special bobbins be used in a basic machine (no frills, no thread cutter) like the Janome 6125?
 07/07/2012 05:16 PM
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MOM

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The blue dot bobbbin case is listed as an okay case for our 7700. When you do free motion do you really need to use your cutter?

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 07/07/2012 07:41 PM
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EmWag09

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No, I don't need to use the cutter. I was just concerned about the "not for use on thread cutter models." written on back of the package of the blue dot bobbin case which I purchased. Are there blue dot cases specific to certain Janome machine models? Having had other problems with my 7700, I do not wish to deliberately do something to cause it to malfunction.
 07/08/2012 07:51 AM
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MOM

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If you go to the opening page of the Janome website go to the top tool bar and where it lists machines select your machine and look for accessories they have all the feet listed and the numbers for each foot. I have the blue dot bobbin case and the part # is 200-445-007. It does not say on the back of the package not to use on machines with thread cutters.

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 07/09/2012 10:32 AM
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EmWag09

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Great! Thank you so much! I have made a purchasing error. The number on my blue dot bobbin case package ends in -008. I'll go today and get the right one!
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