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Topic Title: Thread/Janome 1600P
Topic Summary: Why does my thread keep breaking
Created On: 05/25/2007 09:09 AM
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 05/25/2007 09:09 AM
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deb2024

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Hi,

I have a Janome 1600P set up on a John Watts quilting frame. I continue to have thread breaking problems.

I have:
Changed needles
Changed needle sizes
Adjusted the main tension, ad nauseum
Changed thread (any and all 100% cotton)
Checked bobbin
Checked thread path
Adjusted sewing speed

And anything else I could think of. I am an intermediate to expert seamstress. I have several other machines (Janome and other) and do not have this problem with any other machines.

ANY thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deb
 05/25/2007 10:24 AM
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betsy8009

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Hi, Deb!

Does the thread break when doing ANY type of stitching, or just free-form quilting? Is the thread nearing the end of the spool? Sometimes when it is, it's tightly-wound on the spool and curls excessively....and I sometimes have a lot of breaking at that point. Time to change spools. Now, I can use the end of the spool on regular straight stitching with the feed dogs up but not with them down for free-form quilting. (I own a Brother Quilt Club 1300, very similar to the 1600P--it is a straight-stitch only machine for quilting; I also own the Janome 10,001 machine, Brother PR 600 II 6-needle embroidery unit). Do you have excessive lint buildup in the bobbin case, beneath the throat plate, or in the tension dial on the front of the unit? Maybe a can of compressed air needs to be blasted in those areas to remove any buildup. Perhaps these ideas may give you other ways of checking it out.

These are just some ideas....let me know if any of them help! I DO wish you luck!

Betsy
 05/25/2007 04:37 PM
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deb2024

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Hi,
Thanks for your fast reply.

It breaks only when doing freehand sewing. I have used all manner of thread at various stages of length on the spool.

I use a can of compressed air before, during and after sewing; in the bobbin case, under the throat plate and I have blown out the pre tension and the tension dial.

I have the Janome 10,001 machine, maybe I am just spoiled rotten. It is my favorite machine ever!!!!

Anything else you can think of, I am ready and willing to try!!

Thanks again,
Deb
 05/25/2007 06:13 PM
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betsy8009

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Deb,

Since you've tried everything I suggested, I am thinking you should call your dealer and tell him/her. He/she may have an idea of what's going on. I know you don't want to take it into the store to be evaluated, but at least you'll find out what's going on and will know what to do the next time it happens.

Betsy
 05/25/2007 09:06 PM
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deb2024

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Hi,
That is the one thing I haven't thought to do!!!!

Thanks,
Deb
 05/31/2007 03:07 PM
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connie811

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I used to have the same thread breaking problem with mine until I switched to overlock thread in the bobbin and also on the thread spool.. the thread stopped breaking .. Now I've found that I can use overlock thread in the bobbin and Invisble Thread on the machine spool.. Have you tried that?

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 06/01/2007 08:41 PM
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Pumpkin70

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I too switched to the overlock thread and that seem to work much better as well.

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 06/06/2007 09:40 PM
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diana658

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If your quilt is to tightly clamped onto the quilt frame you could have some problems with your threads. Try loosening the clips a bit
 08/27/2008 05:32 PM
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Regina

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We have spent hours trying to use the Janome 1600P on our New Joy frame. The thread breaks every 8 inches or so. I'm beginningto wish we had done more research first! I've tried a bigger needle. I took it off the frame and tried to Free Motion Quilt .... still breaks. Tomorrow we are taking it back to the dealer to see if she can get it to work properly.
 09/20/2008 07:47 PM
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deltajen

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Have you reduced the pressute foot pressure to 0? I just bought my machine and found the same problem until I lowered the presuure foot preesure to 0.
 11/30/2008 03:20 PM
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quilt007

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Hello, I am an janome girl (I have four Janome machines) and 28 total machines. I too have had a problem with my 1600 with different threads. I also changed to overlock thread and it works great. If you are still having problems with breakage, I have also found if the needle is not in correctly (it has a round top) it will not work at all and your thread will break every 6-8 inches. I have taken out many a quilt until I figured that out. I suggest you use a scrap quilt and then practice first before starting on your pretty quilt. I do this each time I change needles which is often. Even a little out of order and it will give you fits. Good luck.
 12/08/2008 08:27 PM
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nanalozano

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The following is posted on another page here, but I am desperate for help. Some of you experts please tell me if I have purchased the wrong combination.

I recently purchased a used Grace Machine Quilter (the original model) and a Janome 1600P DB for home use. I was soooooo excited to bring this home and start in. Well, needless to say, the thread breaks every 5 to 10 inches of sewing. I tried what I think is everything (because I had read all the posts about this issue on this forum) prior to taking it in for suggestions from the closest dealer. (The wonderful lady who sold it to me assured me that she had only used it a couple of times since her last service.) Upon asking for suggestions from "my" dealer, he spoke to me as if I was an idiot. I explained to him that all I needed to know is if he had heard of such problems and if he had any suggestions to help. He first told me that the machine I am using is not intended for quilting, that it was intended to be put in a tailor's shop to sew a straight line 8 hours a day. His tone was such that he thought I was an idiot to even think it would work for quilting. So, when I asked if he thought I should try a different machine, then all of a sudden, he said he could "modify" it to quilt, saying the feed dogs shouldn't even be on it and my throat plate was the wrong one. I had exactly the same stuff in as was when I purchased it. By the way, before purchase, the seller demonstrated it and let me quilt with it for a while. It did not mess up during all that. So, how was I to know that I was so stupid to have the wrong throat plate on and the feed dogs in (even though they were dropped)?

Let me add that when I purchased the only Janome I have purchased new, I bought it from this dealer and the Janomes are supposed to last and last and last. When showing him the machine, he said that it showed some wear and "they don't last forever, kid." It doesn't help that I am still fairly new at this and don't know everything I should, so of course, his tone made me feel so inferior and I could not think of what to say. Also, he is my only choice of dealers as he is the closest and that is 90 miles from me. I have only been in his shop when I purchased my 6125QC 4 years ago, and when I have had it serviced. So, he doesn't know me by face or name. I don't understand how someone can stay in business when they treat customers the way he did me.

Do any of you have any suggestions to help? First off, I don't want to go back and pay this guy to tell me how stupid I am. Second, can this machine be used as a quilter on a Grace table or not? If not, what do you suggest I get? I am so frustrated here.

Any response is appreciated. Thank you

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Nikki

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 12/15/2008 09:53 PM
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CherylAnn

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Hi Nikki,

Did you get your machine up and running? Don't let this dealer treat you this way. Next time you go in, if you do, be prepared for this guy/gal. I really don't understand how they stay in business when they are so rude.

Cheryl

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 12/16/2008 07:12 AM
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nanalozano

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Hey Cheryl,

I went ahead and left the machine for service and "modifying" for quilting. They haven't called to let me know it is ready yet. I think I will call today and see if it is ready. I am pretty frustrated here.

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Nikki

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 12/20/2008 03:37 PM
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williamsj9

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I have used my Janome 1600P for the past 3 years on the New Joy frame. Usually I have no issues with it. I am fighting a quilt today with threads breaking but I think it is because I'm using 50 wt thread. I want to use this verigated thread, though, so I will continue to fight it. I think 40 wt is best. The 1600P should be just fine for quilting so i'm not sure what modifications need to be done to it.

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Jeanine
 12/21/2008 12:18 AM
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CherylAnn

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Nikki,

Have you got your machine back yet? If I were you I would contact Janome or Ask Jan via this website. I can't see why a machine would need modificaitons because then it may not be suitable for other sewing that you may want to use it for. This dealer sounds like an absolute idiot to me.

Cheryl

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 12/21/2008 10:09 PM
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nanalozano

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Cheryl,

My husband picked it up Friday, but I have not tested it yet. Christmas is too close, and if I started in, I wouldn't get a darn thing done, but that. It looks like all he did was take out the feed dogs and clean it out. He didn't change the plate like he said he was going to do. Who knows? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

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Nikki

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 01/05/2009 10:25 PM
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nanalozano

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Hey Cheryl,

What is your suggestion of thread to quilt with? I am using what the lady sent with me, which is YLI Professional Quilting thread, I am wondering if I should use serger thread after all I have read here. What do you think?

Thanks!

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Nikki

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 01/05/2009 10:46 PM
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CherylAnn

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Hi Nikki,

The YLI should work, but if it doesn't you have nothing to lose by trying the serger thread. I have used a heavier weight cotton thread on my 6600 for free motion and just regular sewing thread and haven't have any problems. This machine seems to be causing you more grief than what it's worth. If it continues, save your pennies and get the 6600 and then you have a great sewing machine too. I am quite certain that it works on the Grace frame. I don't know why Janome made a machine that takes different needles than all their other home machines. They must have a good reason and I'd sure ask the question on "Ask Jan". She should be able to give you a satisfactory answer.

Will talk to you again tomorrow via email.

Cheryl

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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada
HMC15000, many more sewing machine, and my computer game of DigitizerMBX v.4.5 with Cutwork
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