temptat

Posts: 14
Joined: 12/12/2008
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Hi,
Those of you that have digitizer 4, when you resize is it pretty accurate? I notice that the stitch count changes but I was wondering if I can depend on the final results. Don't know much about digitizing yet, but I'm getting there.
Thanks for the help.
Frank
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Frank Courtyard Customs signs & Designs
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MOM

Posts: 2688
Joined: 03/09/2009
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Yes I find that it is pretty accurate. However occasionally I have had a few designs that I have tried to size down quite a bit and I do see a little change in the design and sometimes am not happy, but I do blame myself for trying to downsize too much. It has only happened to me when I use a purchased design. When I create my own I have no issues. MBX is a fantastic program.
MOM
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digimad

Posts: 3674
Joined: 08/30/2007
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Frank, MBX has a stitch recognition function and it does get it wrong. There's been a lot of misinformation given out about the Easy design part of the program, creating new objects from stitch files so you can resize with gay abandon. You can't. What it does is offer intelligent guesswork, based on needle penetrations, so if a purchased design is opened in Easy Design, it searches it's own stitch database and says, 'Ah that looks like fill number whatever' and shows a manual tool object and offers a suggested density and stitch type. It doesn't even recognise it's own stitch files, so don't be fooled.
MBX consists of three distinct and discrete programs, an objects based digitiser, a stitch based editor and a design browser file manager. If you create your own designs in Easy design, save the master in the native format, you can reduce or enlarge it to your hearts content. There are NO stitches, and there wont be until you save it in a stitch format. All there is are objects and each object has a recipe that you set for them, each time you resize your native JAN format, it bases it on the recipe you wrote for each object. So if you set a stitch length of 3 mm and a density of 0.45mm then resized by 500 percent, that object would still have a stitch length of 3mm and a density of 0.45mm. It doesn't work like that when you resize a stitch file.
When you resize a stitch file in MBX easy design, if you stay within the 20 percent limit, and I don't go above 10 percent, you'll find easy design will do a reasonable job. BUT and it's a big but, if that design has used an embossed fill, lace like open work fill, a satin with 2 or more needle penetration force nodes to create a rib effect you could end up losing them. You will definitely lose them if you exceed the 20 percent margin. All easy design has to work with is hundreds of small stitch blocks, it has no idea what stitch type has been used, what density has been set, all it has is a pile of needle up/needle down move to x,y co ordinates and based on that inserts intelligent stitches to prevent gaps but those stitches are placed based on guesswork which is based on a series of needle commands that may or may not exist in its data banks.
I've received designs that people have resized in easy design, with three different fill patterns in a large font. They then compounded the error by using the default save of JAN wrongly believing it would turn those stitch blocks into JAN objects. Only problem was they overwrote the original stitch file so ended up with a ruined design. Stitch files must be edited in easy edit, Janome native format JAN in easy design, the two don't mix and shouldn't really be asked to.
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digimad
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luv2digitize

Posts: 12
Joined: 04/23/2012
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I don't have version 4 but when I resize I keep a close eye on the stitch count..I have stitched out quite a few designs that have been resized and so far all of them have stitched out wonderfully.. of course that being said, the next time I resize it probably won't work out right.. Edith
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