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 01/03/2011 09:57 PM
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I have been looking for a machine. I know how to sew, but seldom do because I have an ancient Singer which weighs a ton. I like the DC2010 which I saw at my dealer, but then I looked at Hancock Fabric and they had an 8050, which appears to have all the features of the DC2010 for $150 less. Can anyone tell me what the difference is?
 01/04/2011 04:05 PM
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There is no 8050. Do you mean 1050?

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 01/04/2011 06:11 PM
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No, I mean 8050. I am looking at a Hancock Fabrics advertisement, where they list a Janome 8050 Sewing Machine." It is a mystery to me as well, because I can not find any mention of it on the Janome web site. It has 50 stitches just like the 2010, although some are different because I do not remember the cute little satin heart stitch. But it does have the Stop/Start button which the 2010 does not have and I wish it did.
 01/04/2011 07:48 PM
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It is probably a typo.

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It's not a typo, because I went to the Hancock's store and saw 8050 on the box and looked at the machine and it said 8050 as well!
 01/04/2011 10:23 PM
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I have the Janome 8050. It seems to be the prototype for the "new" Janome 1050, but it has darker blue script for the stitch chart. On these machines the feet slide in as on a Viking. Also, they allow for the two digit stitch number selection. I am quite happy with the machine, though the feet it came with were only the buttonhole foot, a satin stitch foot and a wide zipper foot. it is very light - no more than 14 or so pounds - the entire UPS box shipped at 16 pounds including all the packing. It also has the Start Stop which I am using and leaving off the foot pedal! Quite fun, actually. I also have the Janome 115110 which is the refurb of the Janome made Kenmore 19110, and have had several Janomes. This machine comes with a Janome warranty, and I registered mine here on Janome's website. I recommend you go to PatternReview.com for more info on the sewing machine boards there. Also you can read reviews of the DC2010 there - that machine is a clone of the Kenmore 19110 and the Janome HT2008. Very nice machine.
 01/04/2011 11:24 PM
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Very Interesting... I took a look at the dealer extranet, and they do show a parts document for this 8050 model. I wonder why they never introduced it to us? It's never been on any of their order forms that I've seen.

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 01/05/2011 11:10 AM
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Well, it seems to be only at Hancock Fabrics. I bought mine online. I don't have a Hancocks within a couple of hundred miles. There do seem to be machines that don't see dealers, yet are fine Janome machines. And the Kenmores, which are Janomes as well and you see Janome now popping up with models that are clones of the Kenmores - the "new" DC5100 for example, which is like the Kenmore 19233. But Janome makes fine machines no matter what or where! When I had the Kenmore 19233 I called Janome over an issue and they were quite nice and helped me. Janome is proud of the machines they build. I am sort of a machine admirer, so I have had a few.
 01/05/2011 01:35 PM
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LibCat, you are right about the Kenmore machines. Did you know that Janome owns Elna? All of the newer Elna machines are Janomes. Janome also makes Bernina's Deco embroidery machine. When we first became a Janome dealer (about 6 years ago), Our Janome rep told us that Janome makes sewing machines for every other sewing machine manufacturer except Brother. I don't know if this is still true today.

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 01/05/2011 04:32 PM
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Skunkbad,I really enjoy reading your blogs,especially about maintenance on Bernina products.I am fascinated with sewing machines and you are one of few dealers that blog on their sites on this subject-keep them coming-Great reading!

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 01/05/2011 07:53 PM
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Libcat - Thanks for the excellent information. So do you know what accounts for the $150 price difference other than the number of feet that comes with it? Is the motor smaller in the 8050 or something like that?The shipping box for the DC2010 says that it weighs 21 pounds.
 01/05/2011 08:38 PM
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Mandy, Thanks, and I will keep writing as long as there is something to write.

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 01/05/2011 08:55 PM
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This is a great thread. Even though the 8050 is a Janome made machine with a Janome label doesn't mean it's supported by Janome. It may be why you don't have information about from Janome headquarters.

I started many years ago with a White Jeans Machine which I purchase at a fabric store like Hancocks. I had many problems with that machine but was never able to get any support from White or Viking Husqvarna the parent company. I eventually found an excellent sewing machine tech who was able to get parts for me but they were aftermarket parts.

...you see Janome now popping up with models that are clones of the Kenmores - the "new" DC5100 for example, which is like the Kenmore 19233.


Sears has a far better reputation than Hancocks for sewing machines. And it is interesting that Janome, the maker of the Sears Kenmore 19233 has relabeled their own machine! I imagine because they see this machine fly off the shelves at Sears. Sears pricing is what is so attractive to many buyers - people who know they are getting a Janome machine at a cheaper price.

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 01/06/2011 09:37 AM
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From what I understand Sears usually has the rights to the retired Janome machines like the 9000 and the 9500 and renames them. All the accessories can be purchased through Sears.

Should you have a problem with the Kenmore they have a great warranty program but I learned soon that there are only certain parts that can be repaired by them and when they cannot repair and you have purchased the extended warranty they will replace it if it is not too old.

I had the 5700 for 4 years and they always serviced it no problem but when the circuit board went out it was a nightmare to get them to replace it. So keep in mind purchasing from a reputable Janome dealer is always the best bet.

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 01/06/2011 01:08 PM
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First, the DC2010 is one you can buy at a dealers. When you do that you will get dealer support. This has many good points if you have a dealer you trust and that you get along well with. Also, it is a heavier machine than the newer 8050 or the new 2160 and 3160. This can be good unless you want to haul it around a lot - I love the light weight of the 8050. As to support - I don't know because I haven't needed any on any of the Janomes I have ever had or my Kenmores. Horizontal Janomes take the same feet - so the 2010, the 8050, the 2160 etc. use the same feet as the horizontal Kenmores.

As to Elnas, yes, Janome acquired that name years ago now. I have a bottom line Elna 2100, and it has a few nice touches the bottom line Janomes of that year do not have. A nicer accessory case and presser foot pressure adjustment for example. And it takes the same feet as the vertical bobbin (front loading) Janomes.

As to differing model numbers etc. - it is fun to go look at the websites Janome has for various other countries - several machines will be recognized as "other" model numbers with different paint jobs. Janome is a huge global company, and they market the machines they think will sell best in each country but I imagine they all come out of the same factories in Asia. A good search on the web will bring up a lot of information on various Janomes - one good source is PatternReview.com.
 01/09/2011 01:30 PM
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Hi,

Sears contracts out the specifications they are prepared to put into a machine. Presently Janome is making sewing machines for Sears Kenmore Brand name. They are NOT Janome's though they are good machines. Just think about it, Janome would not make machines for another company with exactly the same components of their own brand. Sears can always sell for a lesser price because of the volume, and they want to keep up a big market so will not have ALL the expensive stuff in their products. Just remember that all the companies are out there to make money and we tend to spend to help the process along.

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 01/18/2011 12:50 AM
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The 8050 seems to be more like the dealer model DC1050. I have personally used both the DC1050 and and DC2010. While each machine has it's benefits, I prefer the DC2010. It is just a heavier more beefy machine (the DC1050 only weighs about 10 lbs). We have some great demo videos of both machines on our website,

Click here to see our demo videos on the DC2010

Click here to see our demo videos on the DC1050

Now they have just introduced the DC2011, which has a $499 price tag and the DC2010 is only $399. The machines are the SAME, only different color and price. If you are interested in this model you might consider buying the DC2010 fast before dealers sell out of them and then you will have to get the DC2011 (same machine) for $100 more.

Hope this helps!

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 05/04/2011 05:53 PM
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I just saw the 8050 at Hancock and was curious to know: which machine did you end up buying? I am a beginner at sewing - thanks for your help!
 06/03/2011 11:42 PM
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I purchased the Janome 8050 last year, on sale at Hancock's, as a lightweight machine to take to sewing classes. (My other machines are Berninas.) I love the 8050, enough so that I am in the process of selling my Berninas and purchasing a higher end Janome with more features to use as my main machine. The 8050 is not as good at handling very heavy fabrics as my other current machines, but I didn't expect it to be; the trade-off (which in my view was more than worth it) was that in the 8050 I had a relatively inexpensive, lightweight machine that is exceptionally easy to use and that has a wide variety of speciality stitches. I purchased additional feet for the 8050 through Amazon.com and those have given me more flexibility in how and when I use the 8050. I really love this little machine.
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bfavorite ... I just purchased a factory refurbished 8050 from Amazon. I'm curious as
as to which feet fit on the 8050 through amazon. I am a newbie to
sewing... very limited knowledge. Does it matter if I buy the snap on
feet ... will those fit the 8050. 8050 has slide on feet ...right??
I want to do mostly mending and garment sewing. I guess I would need
a blind hem foot and possible concealed zipper foot. Any particular
suggestions for brands of feet.?? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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